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Post by blaird on May 8, 2013 6:03:54 GMT -8
This is from the Mission 32 to Verona posted by Poppa Smurf Still flying, but I'm not making it back to Foggia, gonna have to ditch over the sea. Maybe a suggestion for future missions is to take a different flight path if you know you won't have fuel to reach the base so that you can bail out over land instead of ditching in the sea. Read more: 509th-vbw.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=premission&action=display&thread=506#ixzz2Si3OPBc8I would be ok with this idea, but wanted to put it up for discussion. Also an idea that I thought of after reading this and reading Combat Crew at the moment was the idea of alternate targets. If your bomber is forced out of formation and you will not be able to reach the target due to fuel, or low altitude over the alps the Bombardier can choose an alternate target if you would fly over an alternate zone with scoring adjustments. I could then either post alternates or the way I would prefer the person flying can choose the alternate. |
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Post by crushedhat on May 8, 2013 14:03:43 GMT -8
Teh biggest questions I see with allowing alternate routes is determing the level of fighter support available and any zone modifiers for Tables B-1 & B-2. Otherwise, I see no reason not to allow it. If we go with alternate targets, the same issues arise as to Flak. Again, not insurmountable.
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Post by blaird on May 9, 2013 6:40:30 GMT -8
Teh biggest questions I see with allowing alternate routes is determing the level of fighter support available and any zone modifiers for Tables B-1 & B-2. Otherwise, I see no reason not to allow it. If we go with alternate targets, the same issues arise as to Flak. Again, not insurmountable. At that point, it would be rolling similarly to flying a non-campaign mission. I have charts for each target on the actual Foggia map and can post those for people that don't have them. |
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Post by crushedhat on May 9, 2013 19:46:27 GMT -8
That should work.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2013 5:23:31 GMT -8
I agree with the idea of choosing a different flight path to avoid ditching. I do not believe a pilot would choose to ditch or bailout over the sea without a surety of air-sea rescue being at the ditching point. Also I believe they would choose to land in or bail out over Switzerland rather than enemy occupied territory.
Choosing an alternate path to bomb another target with a bomber in such danger, I am not so sure of. That smacks of movie heroics. But seeing as this is a game, I think this should be left to the player to decide depending on how he sees the particular situation.
Carl
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Post by crushedhat on May 17, 2013 13:54:12 GMT -8
I agree with the idea of choosing a different flight path to avoid ditching. I do not believe a pilot would choose to ditch or bailout over the sea without a surety of air-sea rescue being at the ditching point. Also I believe they would choose to land in or bail out over Switzerland rather than enemy occupied territory.
I have read accounts of crews who choose to take their chances rather than opt for the closer choice of Switzerland or Sweden. As often as not, the decision to head for neutral territory had more to do with seeking medical care for wounded comrades than personal survival. Apart from an old-fashioned notion of patriotism and seeking to stay in the fight, there is also the more selfish aspect of being able to fulfill your 25 missions and go home as opposed to spending an indefinte period 'banished' to a foreign land, especially if you're young and 'invincable.'.
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Post by blaird on May 17, 2013 22:50:46 GMT -8
I agree with the idea of choosing a different flight path to avoid ditching. I do not believe a pilot would choose to ditch or bailout over the sea without a surety of air-sea rescue being at the ditching point. Also I believe they would choose to land in or bail out over Switzerland rather than enemy occupied territory. Choosing an alternate path to bomb another target with a bomber in such danger, I am not so sure of. That smacks of movie heroics. But seeing as this is a game, I think this should be left to the player to decide depending on how he sees the particular situation. Carl I was thinking more along the lines of something that they would happen to fly over, not something that they would actively seek, I read a book that talked about how "if they were forced out of formation then it would become the bombardier's job to select an alternate, and if they were forced out of formation then the navigator would have to guide them, otherwise they just followed the lead plane and dropped their bombs when he did." - John Comer - Combat Crew. It was the author talking about what could happen, not that it ever happened to him. Primarily I would think that the bombs would all ready have been dropped before that became an issue, but never know. |
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